Impact of Cambodian Scam Indictments: What Happens Next

What are the national security and legal impacts of the criminal charges against the leader of the Prince Group? And who gets the $15 billion?

Episode 26: Erin West and Ari Redbord from TRM Labs discuss the implications of the recent indictment of Chen Zhi. A key figure in transnational organized criminal activity, Zhi is accused of money laundering conspiracy — laundering the proceeds from human trafficking, scam compounds, and fraud.

$15 billion is an amazing win for the government to take that much money out of circulation for these bad actors. — Ari Redbord

They explore the indictment process, the significance of sanctions and $15 billion forfeiture, the challenges of victim restitution, and how this case can serve as a playbook in future efforts against organized crime.

  • Although extradition challenges make arrests unlikely, the indictment is game-changing in the fight against the scam industry.

  • International cooperation is a vital element of combating organized crime.

  • Digital evidence included email and text messaging within the Prince Group that show Chen Zhi’s direct involvement in the criminal activities.

  • The digital evidence also shows ties to government officials and the level of corruption inherent in the scam industry in Southeast Asia.

  • Victim restitution is a priority, but the process can be complex and lengthy. One challenge would be establishing systems to ensure that the right people get the right funds back.

  • Sanctions have become a national security tool. Funds, property, or accounts under U.S. jurisdiction are blocked. No one in the U.S. can do business with you: Citizens, companies, banks, or exchanges cannot provide goods, services, or financial access. The U.S. dollar is still the global reserve currency, which means almost everyone does business in US dollars.

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Who Is Ari Redbord?

Ari Redbord is the Global Head of Policy at TRM Labs. Prior to joining TRM, Ari was the Senior Advisor to the Deputy Secretary and the Undersecretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence at the United States Treasury.

Ari worked with teams from the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC), the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN), and other Treasury components to use sanctions and other regulatory tools to safeguard the financial system from illicit criminal use. Prior to Treasury, Ari was an Assistant U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, where he investigated and prosecuted terrorism, espionage, threat finance, cryptocurrency, export control, child exploitation, and human trafficking cases.

Episode Chapters

  • 03:09 — Chen Zhi and the Indictment Process

  • 08:41 — International Cooperation and Extradition

  • 11:43 — The Role of Digital Evidence

  • 15:02 — The Significance of Forfeiture Actions

  • 17:36 — The Scale of Financial Crimes and National Security Implications

  • 29:33 — The Power of Civil Forfeiture

  • 33:24 — Victim Restitution: A Long Process

  • 37:17 — Potential Uses for Seized Funds

  • 39:00 — The Role of Sanctions in National Security

  • 47:13 — FinCEN’s Role in Money Laundering

  • 51:04 — A Playbook for Future Actions

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